The Hill Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave break down the latest updates from the Idaho college murders. #Idaho #students
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The Data was freely given by people who do not read the fine print. Glad they caught him nice to see hoarded data used for actual public safety.
this was a really interesting discussion. dont think ive seen news anchors have such a well thought out, evidence based, and provocative analysis… AND there was a reference to Gattaca, which imo is one of the best science fiction movies of all time. amazing!
If you guys people did your research you know that during Covid they sold that DNA information through testing
And also insurance companies are going to get this information and keep it and be able to charge accordingly towards your predisposition for diseases
It appears they can only access 2 databases. Gedmatch and Family Tree.With GEDMatch your made aware that it can be used by police.
Meh I think the government should be able to use the data in cases like this.
23&Me maintains complete privacy. DNA is only available publicly if person affirmatively releases it to public databases. If you want your privacy, don’t release it.
Why aren’t they doing this for every crime that’s been committed and not cherry pick certain ones? I bet it could help solve a lot more crimes.
A republican govt would never all our rights going away with this woks agenda
This reminds me of the San bernardino shooter. Govt said to Apple to just give them a key to unlock his phone. Apple said no because there is no single key, only a generic key to open all of them. Govt said "ok. We promise to only use it for THIS phone."
Kudos to Apple at the time for saying no.
NOT IN GATTACA. See vaccine passports.
So if i have blood work done its sent to a lab the government has access to it we have no privacy at all linking us to what ever.
Does this evidence hold up in courts?
As soon as I heard that he was found thanks to something called "genetic genealogy," I got concerned, for reasons I couldn't even really explain right away. Something like this just seems RIPE for abuse.
"I think it's worth having this conversation as a society about whether we want to have this kind of more absolutist position that we're in… The question is, are we going to be ahead of the ball in getting some legislation on the books that protects us before it's too late?"
The problem with this is that women want to be safe. Throughout history, women have been very consistent that they will gladly choose to give up rights, privacy, or freedom for the sake of feeling safe. So if women come to think that allowing the government to own and access everyone's DNA will ultimately keep them safe, they will choose that, regardless of the freedom or privacy concerns involved. Women will ALWAYS choose safety and security over freedom and privacy. They always have, and they always will.
I think what robbie said was right. As much as I don’t like it, we are living in a society that is much more exposed than we used to be and that is the expectation. You just can’t expect the same level of privacy as when we were living in cabins and farms that are miles from your neighbors as maybe some early Americans did.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. To my knowledge, companies like 23 and me were shut down because they were going far beyond the scope of what they advertised. Personal information of customers were being used without their knowledge/consent
Minority Report is already here. YOU just haven’t been caught yet…
I’m thankful that this service is used to catch killers!! If my family member was a killer .. I’d be happy to help catch him!!
He was just released on $100.000 bail bond
23 and Me and Ancestry DNA don't allow law enforcement to access their data. GEDmatch does if the person has opted into allowing that type of access.
I am against these DNA tests. That's just me.
I'm against any law enforcement agencies or government agencies having access to the actual data bases.
THAT BEING SAID, they don't need access to the databases.
All they have to do is submit the DNA like any consumer does.
When you get your report, you see all relatives in the database. Consumers get those reports and are free to contact other family members.
Law enforcement could do this without any court order and do the legwork.
I'm not sure what route law enforcement uses, it's ridiculous to surrender your body fluids for all to access.
People are still going to do it, people just don't think and they don't care.
I just shake my head.
And yet google, fb and Amazon echo as well our phones are all listening and used as tracking devices and I hear crickets on those.
IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR PRIVACY, DON'T GIVE OUT YOUR DNA
…..The reason “no one seems to care” how they caught him is because if he is the killer, he not only was a fugitive on the run from justice but quite literally a potential serial killer who was bound to strike again. A mass murderer in police custody is more than “a convenience”. Young lives were lost and remaining lives are now ruined.
Pair that with the terror that the people in that community were living in along with the fact that there was a huge amount of pressure on the police to catch this person, I am very much on the side of the pros outweigh the cons. Everyone on social media (including the ones tweeting their opposition) compromises their own privacy every time they log into their accounts anyway, but want to be high and mighty about privacy when the objective is to get a murderer off the streets. Give me a break.
I'm glad LE can use 23andme. Thank God! They will take his DNA and it should be 100% match
Those that submitted their DNA knowingly consented to this. There's no privacy issue.
Def way too far. The company should be doxed
Robby sucks with many arguments man. I mean what does free speech have to do with so many different aspect of life in which the fact that you have to register with a govt agency or 3rd party contractors who are hired to gather numerous categories of our info in order for us to either register for things in everyday life or even enjoyable choices. The fact that the fastest & one of the largest profitable industries is data bank collection that has essentially popped up overnight (last 2 decades) & now serves to literally find ways to scheme as many Americans into giving up as much of their personal info as well as mundane & irrelevant info when it comes to anything another would ever need to know about someone. It’s a disgusting industry that should be illegal but cuz big brother is mutually enriched as a silent partner with these data firms, they have no problem allowing such violations & even encourage it to make it worse. So essentially these companies continue to be allowed to often times use insanely deceptive tactics to gather every oz of ur life’s actions, break down & analyze each individual & their every behavior from personal interest to how they spent their every waking minute of everyday to the point where on paper they have a better understanding of every individual more than the individual does themselves. Which of course is then broken down into subject categories & sold off to other massive entities that greatly benefit from knowing ur specific habits as it pertains to whatever product they so happen to be in the business of selling to you. And of course once they so easily reel u in then they can start their own process of collecting ur habits even further within their own platforms. Bottom line is big business being able to so intrusively be allowed to over collect & store our data as individuals solely for purposes of then using it against us by preying in weakness or just straight up manipulating us ABSOLUTELY has NOTHING to do with any sort of 1st amendment / free speech law violations or conflicts between the two. I really with Robby had a better level of intellect & actually pondered these topics as it always seems like he’s winging it & it doesn’t help that he can’t ever formulate a single smooth & cohesive sentence w/o all the fumbling as he waits for his brain to catch up with his voice. The Hill has become an absolute shyt show of an embarrassment & whoever is doing the hiring over there should be gone like yesterday!
Who even knows what you agree too. Public is public. Fine print matters.
I read a lot of genealogy fiction and some of the authors are very good about research. One in particular is actually certified to track DNA to find criminals just like this. His latest series includes quite a bite about the ethics involved and what is required to use DNA in this way. Very interesting series.
Big Brothers BEEN watching….and no one’s been paying attention.
Briahna, "we're not even close to that" Really? You have a perfect knowledge after all the Twitter revelations? I don't trust what I can't prove myself.
Man, he looks like Eric Trump.
They should have access in the search for a potential criminal.