Journalist Matt Taibbi joins CN Live! to discuss the implications of his Twitter Files revelations, including his latest on Hamilton 68 and its fatal blow to the Russiagate narrative. With journalist Chris Hedges and C.I.A. whistleblower John Kiriakou.
Matt Taibbi, Chris Hedges & John Kiriakou: TWITTER FILES & THE DEATH OF RUSSIAGATE: CN LIVE! S5E2
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Thank you for this report!! We live in DARK times!!
Waiting for this! Thx so very much! Any more info on pfizer blow up?! No mainstream will put that out. What's your take on it-all?!
Great video. Taibbi's monologue around the hour mark about how mass manipulation is being fine tuned is terrifying. Future propaganda will be so pervasive and insidious that it will be virtually impossible to know we're being manipulated.
There is an obvious parallel between Corporate Media, and Western Neo-liberal governments.
It's clear their model is utterly bankrupt, but they feel compelled to keep the circus running, as it's
their conduit for wealth, for power …… So perhaps we should not be surprised that they all cling to
the status quo, with increasingly white finger-tips …..
BUT, this reluctance to even offer a fraction of reasonableness, or rationality, will likely, like every Empire
before it, lead to the fracturing of their world, and change that they have minimal control over.
The tragic part in all of that will be the suffering of 'ordinary mortals' in the period of flux
between the end of the old order, an the start of something new. < a point in time in which we must all
be on our guard during > it is traditionally the time where False Prophets look for vacuums to fill.
At least you're not dead like 2 bullet Gary Webb and nobody in the next room heard the gun shot Hunter Thompson or locked up forever in the Tower of London like Assange. Just blackballed. That's the American Way.
1:12:00 The difficulty vis. the Internet > it's a corporate owned entity, and ripe for skulduggery – as we've been seeing
for a long time now.
The disassociated personalities engaging in mass shootings and suchlike > at core, this must be rooted in a
cynically destroyed State Ed. system, denying people the Critical Thinking capacity to understand why their
lives are so bleak, their futures bankrupt? All the while, this linking in with elite's preferences – distraction, 'them vs us' narratives etc
Hats off once again, CN — what a great discussion.
There is a cultural phenomenon in the U.S. that sort of undergirds the MSM; even as public trust in mainstream reporting is at an all time low. As with Russiagate, people will essentially believe in anything – evidence be damned – if the narrative has an emotional appeal. "My beliefs are better than your facts" basically sums it up. And the worse things become economically, on a societal level, fear permeates the atmosphere and triggers a need to make sense of the world. But instead of reading and educating one's self, magical thinking becomes the bromide. At 100:21 Matt Taibbi explains the direction things are moving in. This sounds very similar to C.I.A. concocted Psyop stuff that's been employed for decades. Only worse, given that Russiagate/Hamilton 68 was an overall success and has become a public- private business model. Most Americans get their "news" from headlines, so most people will remain ignorant of the debunking that's been taking place.
Wow
It’s easier to train a smart dog than a stupid one.
– Michael malice
It is One GIANT Dysfunctional, Abusive relationship btwn the Public and "Authority". The people EAT it up when it's some "high powered" person saying something. All you need to do is Study the dynamic of the Abusive "family", Child Abuse then enlarge it and you have this. Too many people sold their emotional health out for a Job, $$. Saw this and been criminalized for saying it since the 70s.
It's the Fittest among us who don't bow. Those who do out number us
It's a HEALTH ISSUE. Everything comes down to HEALTH/FITNESS. No One gets over on it. This is why I studied and have been speaking about Dysfunctional, Abusive relationships for Decades! Not many people Have Emotional Fitness. Just Adult Children with "Power" and their Enablers.
I think the religiosity of Russiagate really trickled down from a particular generation (and class) who grew up believing in the mythology of the Cold War of America as a shining city, and inherent force of good, and all the evil in the world is the Ruskies. When evidence of US internal decay piles up they just regress to those beliefs they inherited in childhood because they invested heavily and built lives around those national myths. Perhaps they go so far as to recreate Cold War I to manage their psychological discomfort as US decline becomes visible.
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Can you say that this is a boomerang effect because everything US is throwing at other countries comes back to f:ck us in the end?🤷🏼♀️
we basically need to put the big ugly menacing mugs of the big news stars and the big cable channels and the big papers/websites and social media bandits/mercenaries in the biggest montage of MOST WANTED posters ever. This is the hook. This is one of the hooks that will lead to people piquing their interest to learn more about how this thing works that follows them around all day studying them and testing them. but if all you can do is tie them back to the the CIA and the warmonger, many people won't see that as a big surprise. This is a big part of this system. people already like American exceptionalism, so when the scheme is discovered, most people will be ambivalent.
This is a big part of the puzzle. It's like the brainwasher being caught by the already brainwashed. It's like the finale of a game. The game has reached its conclusion.
So, it isn't about dunking on the deep state and the establishment, it is simply about giving thoughtful and careful exposition of the events and elaborating on how things unseen and unknown can have so much influence and control. So it is a super major teaching moment. But to teach it, you have to teach a few other things. One of the hardest things to teach is what people don't want to learn.
It's hard for people to learn about the new media/behavior control system when at the same time they learn that they are helping to murder innocents and journalists. It's almost like fat shaming to the extreme.
The system of making US war mongering more like a bad habit like McDonald's french fries, porn, cable, Hollywood gossip, video games, couch potatoe-ism. These have been part of society for decades now. Now there is a new era of American culture warring and it is not so much about the details of the culture war as it is about the addictiveness. Just like opium, cocaine, and all of their derivatives, the addictive isolate is at the center of the enterprise. Click bait? smart phone bait? dopamine hits on the couch at night? amphetamine hits in the morning to get me going? The dog in me doesn't want to hear about Pavlov's dogs. When we learn about Pavlov's dogs in school, Dr. Pavlov is the genius scientist. We identify with him, not the dogs.
that super long paper by the college or whatever. almost meaningless. there should be a study on how meaningless it is. the length and comprehensiveness of it is more about the ambition to put the fraud and brainwashing behind us in record speed.
What Matt is talking about at the end there is a blossoming of something that has been coming for a long time and it is why the cloud/internet companies are the highest valued companies on earth. It's not because of the value that they offer the end user. The end user is the new evolving commodity. Something that is super manipulatable in real time. Like manipulating crops or livestock, but in real time, petroleum and other chemical products like glyphosate or food additives but in real time. Like pharmacology in real time. I think I'm exaggerating, but it's essentially the same. Also like financial derivative products and insurance policies.
I think there is a lot of R and D being done on crypto funds and investing and the consumer tie in. I've heard young people that barely graduated high school talking about crypto like they think they are a Wall St. wizard or something.
I knew this was gonna be good but didn't know it would be THAT good. Holy shit.
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Unlike the Pentagon and CIA, I doubt if Russia spends a fraction of its time using social media in influence operations. They realize how much of a waste of time and money it represents and how little can be gained, unlike the U.S. propaganda departments constantly pushing out false flag garbage. Much of the supposed Russian memes are more likely CIA creations.
The one ray of light is that today, we are interconnected. I actually subscribe to and support every human being on this panel (except for John, and I am signing up for his substack right after this). I applaud every person in here, including the patrons, for their courage and compassion.
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Great conversation. Thanks
This might be the best video on the internet now.
Thanks for this CN, It's the best discussion I've heard on the real situation surrounding the CIA and Pentagon, journalists and the MSM. Sounds just like the internal mahinations in international banking at the top. No difference at all.
Doublethink, the ability to hold two competing idead that contradict each other while believing both to be true and accurate.
Example:
1. "The Russian military is incompetent and badly armed / trained, we should supply Ukraine with weapons as they will defeat them"
2. "The Russians wont stop at Ukraine! they will come for Europe! we have to supply endless weapons to Ukraine to defeat them!"
^ These two ideas are incompatible yet from the centrists to the right most people hold those views simultaneously.
I love you guys! You have given me years of personal validation and vindication. I am trying to do somersaults around here with my old self. YEARS! Thank you for your work.
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Now I've gotta figure out how to download this for classes.
One of the most engaging and comprehensive discussions on journalism, social media and the control of the flow of (dis)information
Very sad to watch the downfall of journalism over the past 25 plus years. I remember when I could read Louis Menand, Lewis Lapham, et al without cringing. New Yorker, Atlantic, The Nation, Mother Jones — one by one they've all become unreadable propaganda rags. Thankful for Consortium, Empire Files, Grayzone, the Lever, Mint Press and indie writers like Hedges & Taibbi on Substack.
Superlative work.
Did they touch on the terrible David Corn article at Mother Jones which purports to debunk the CJR article about how the media and democrats teamed up on Trump by spreading fake Russia baiting news?
It's because the government is still running the Mockingbird Operation where they have CIA working inside the actual main stream media. They aren't "getting it wrong" they KNOW damn well they are spreading lies. They stir the narrative and the anchors are too cowardly and/or lazy to stand up .
Matt is right!
A fascinating and informative conversation! Thank you!!
Scroll down imgur for any length of time and keep note of how the images and memes change, it's virtually behavioral training in the way Matt describes at 1:05:00 this future is already there and established
Thank you Consortium News, for doing all you do 👌🏻
Taibbi @ 1:01:10 – this over-shadows what they all were saying