Breaking Points Krystal and Saagar discuss Russia’s reaction to Finland officially joining the NATO alliance as the war in Ukraine rages on.
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Sometimes I am reminded that Saagar has bad takes in NATO expansion. Maybe if Russia didn't invade Ukraine then the PEOPLE of Finland and Sweden wouldn't have totally flipped on NATO application. I personally don't think setting up a layer of protection from Putin attempting to repeat WWII. Putin wants to restore Russia to the USSR.
Why would Putin be upset about Finland joining NATO?
Unless…..
Another slice of my income going to another country …
2:00 Saagar repeats Putins lies and then suggests take them at face value.
He invaded to steal gas, we armed Ukraine to defend that gas.
Why does Saagar keep taking about NATO?
With NATO about to be dismantled Finland just made a serious mistake
What is NATO, well it basically means..
Nefarious
American
Tactical
Organisation
So, it's like a front for America to put nuclear missles beside other countries they don't like. Exactly the same as the Cuban missles crisis.
Finlands army has been training for a Russian invasion since WW2. They are an extremely competent army. You should be asking how some of the members like Hungary got in there.
Plot twist- the Mexicans sign a treaty with Russia and now America/NATO are in the exact same situation as Russia with its neighbours.
You'd love to see it. My money would be on the Russicans!!
Gotta love krystals cringe boyfriends subs coming here..
Saagar is just clueless. He is always factually wrong in his wiews about Europe.
Finland will never have nuclear weapons and Russia doesn't see NATO asa threat to Russia but as a threat to Russian expansion and imperialism.
Saagar is so clueless it hurts to watch this piece of 💩 content🤣🤣
Saagar return my 5min of life back
TALK IS CHEAP👍
Sagar, you said most of the world against Russia. Not true. Only NATO nations. Thw rest of the world sides with Russia or is neutral.
Russia hanging on pretty well.
The ignorance in this comments section is dispiriting—and this group is ostensibly far better informed than most. Shocking, really, and evidence of how hopeless the US polity is.
NATO expanding eastward is the excuse
Putin wants the Soviet Union back
Same with Xi
You can’t see that?
Krystal thinks Finland joining NATO is worse for Russia than Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO and Russia losing Crimea and Sevastopol. And compared to the average citizen Krystal is "well informed." No wonder we're done.
As soon as he Saagar said, Finland and Sweden "are massive welfare states' with a hint of disgust, I new i could stop listening. Saagar I think you should stick to stories based entirely in the US, I find I can trust you more with those.
Oh boy, saagar does have really good insights in american politics but outside US borders he really fits the typical american with no basic knwledge of the countries he isntalking about, Finland is a highly tehcnological country, not a welfare state, they will contribute a lot, they have a 200.000 strong army highly technological backed by their own MIC
NATO is not protecting the US from an invasion from the Soviet Union.
Bashing Finland, one of the most developed, educated, and militarily strong countries on Earth, is not a good idea. Even those who are on the fence about Ukraine want Finland in… Check the comments
well, judging by their no-nonsense approach to everything, including their driver's license test, for starters, finns could teach the rest of you mfs how drive properly 😀
With all due respect, I disagree with Saagar. By his logic, nobody else should join NATO. And not only that, now every other NATO country is stupid for putting their country on the line and go to nuclear war. Yes, that's what it means. But it's also the surest way to prevent a war.
It's funny to hear people asking what Sweden and Finland bring to NATO. Sweden is the worlds leading submarine technology country, even putting U.S. to shame. Finland on the other hand has recently been holding military exercises with top U.S. troops and the Finnish conscripts, not even career soldiers, have been functioning on an equal level. And with a reserve of over one million, and shittonnes of expertise on warfare in areas that NATO lacks. Well, it's just funny.
Both countries will bring way more, than what they will potentially gain. But if you don't follow whats happening, you just wont know the facts.
"Tonight We Dine In Helsinki!"
The Greeks, probably.
I swear, the moment the discussion leaves US politics, it's like research leaves the room. These takes are so narrow and uninformed. Your own viewers keep telling telling you this. Hire some correspondents who know the situations, or at least have someone who checks your information beforehand.
Saagar just goes full Russian propaganda mode at this point leaving the fig leaf of being the devil's advocate behind. If someone told me this would be his position on Russia 2 years ago I wouldn't believe.
One of the things that is harder for US people to appreciate is the historical ties between these places and Russia. Finland belonged to Sweden until 1814 but thereafter belonged to Russia until the Bolshevik Revolution. The US doesnt really have former territories in its near abroad. To Russia, NATO expansion of this sort would be a bit like Puerto Rico declaring independence and then a few decades later, joining the Warsaw Pact. It would be alarming. If the US didn't have an independent Puerto Rico as part of its own security arrangement, it would at least expect neutrality. This is what Russia thinks about its former near abroad as well.
The history and location of Finland had much to do with the strategic choice of maintaining Finnish neutrality; indeed the CSCE (OSCE) was founded there in 1975. But Finnish strategic considerations have changed considerably since 1975. With the EU integration, adoption by Finland of the Euro over the Finnmark and the closer political alignment of all EU member states, it becomes difficult to have members having separate security and foreign policy arrangements (this was the idea of the project, after all). Finland out of NATO is for the EU something like having Turkey in the alliance; a member state with a completely different political orientation.
Why i am not surprised that Saagar has a terrible take on that? Would not needed to watch this Video to know what that tool has to say.
I think we should isolate
Came here to talk shit about these two in the comments for this stupid take. Glad so many others in the comments came to do the same.
NATO agreed to not expand NATO after German reunification… I don't like it when people don't keep their deals.
Imagine a private club saying that it's not up to the club to decide who becomes its member. This is what NATO said when Russia protested. 'It's solely up to Ukraine'. Really?? It seems that it isn't just up to Sweden now.
I like how Russia is so inept they can’t even take over Ukraine and we need to expand NATO to prevent them from taking over Europe. Seems to me NATO is so big they don’t need US protection anymore.
Sagaar is wrong. Finland joining NATO is more useful to NATO and US interests than to Finland. Here is why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dIjrNwXgrU
Bad take. First of all, as many have mentioned, Finland is no slouch militarily. Secondly, this idea that alliances or partnerships need to be strictly quid pro quo is so short-sighted and Trumpian, I feel stupider for having listened.
The CIA has their troll army in the comments, I see.
The comments on here are very informative, I hope Saagar reads them so he actually knows what he is talking about next time.
Why go 800miles? US has border with russia. If russia attacks finland, no need to go to finland to attack russia, you can attack russia from US.